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dle vseho to chteji stihnout v Q4 oboji - high end RDNA2 + refresh mainstream RDNA (RX 5700(XT)/5600XT)
z toho usuzuju, ze mainstream s RDNA2 bude az nekdy 2021 a asi tezko hned v Q1
- samozrejme vse muze byt jinak jen si tak skladam obrazek z toho vseho, co je na webu a zatim mi to u AMD moc nevychazi (za high end platit nechci s mym hranim par hodin mesicne)
z toho usuzuju, ze mainstream s RDNA2 bude az nekdy 2021 a asi tezko hned v Q1
- samozrejme vse muze byt jinak jen si tak skladam obrazek z toho vseho, co je na webu a zatim mi to u AMD moc nevychazi (za high end platit nechci s mym hranim par hodin mesicne)
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Žádný refresh Navi nebude, vsechno budou RDNA2 čipyDithius píše:A Onen refresh má nastat kdy?
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To mas akoze odkial?
for this year AMD is planning on both Navi product refreshes as well as parts based on the forthcoming RDNA 2 GPU architecture. To quote Lisa Su:
In 2019, we launched our new architecture in GPUs, it's the RDNA architecture, and that was the Navi based products. You should expect that those will be refreshed in 2020 - and we'll have a next generation RDNA architecture that will be part of our 2020 lineup. So we're pretty excited about that, and we'll talk more about that at our financial analyst day. On the data centre GPU side, you should also expect that we'll have some new products in the second half of this year.
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Hm, tak to čítajú právnici. Navi produkty z roka 2019 budú nahradené novou generáciou RDNA2, ale nie všetky. Ostatné budú RDNA, ale nie že refresh.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tomsha ... re-in-2020Mr_Trollfan píše:To mas akoze odkial?
Měsíc stará zprava vyjádření AMD k onomu 'refreshi'
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Vega Primitive Shader combines the functions of vertex and geometry shader and with the right knowledge you can discard game based primitives at an incredible rate" https://pcper.com/2017/01/amd-vega-gpu- ... tecture/2/
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takze zprava z 29.ledna prebiji tu zpravu z 5.března jo (oboji od CEO)
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Ved tam nic nemas o tom ze male navi by nemalo byt refreshnute ty troll. Rovnako tam pisu ze sucastny navy lineup ktory vysiel v 2k19 bude refreshnuty. Azda necakas ze velke navi budu nazyvat refresh povodneho navi.
Ak by aj bol refresh sucastneho lineupu na RDNA 2 tak to neznamena ze to nebude refresh na co navazuje aj toto: https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/navi-2x-rd ... ard-lineup"In 2019, we launched our new architecture in GPUs, it’s the RDNA architecture, and that was the Navi-based products. You should expect those will be refreshed in 2020 and we'll have our next-generation RDNA architecture that will be part of our 2020 lineup."
AMD’s Navi 2X graphics card lineup won’t stop at ‘Big Navi’. Over at AMD’s Financial Analyst Day, the company confirmed that a full top-to-bottom lineup of graphics cards on the RDNA 2 architecture, some of which will arrive by the end of 2020, including mid-range and entry-level fare alongside an “uncompromising 4K” GPU.
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Co ? Dyt ta citace je z clanku z 28.1.2020mlrs píše:takze zprava z 29.ledna prebiji tu zpravu z 5.března jo (oboji od CEO)
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15447/qu ... ing-to-amd
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ok 28. a ne 29. ledna - to jsi postoval - ale o vic jak mesic pozdej na AMD financial analyst day tam Lisa Su rikala o tech RDNA / RDNA refresh a RDNA 2 to, co ti tady pisou ostatni -> takze my verime te o mesic novejsi zprave, ty te starsi z ledna -> pohoda, nemusime to dal resit (kazdy ma svoji pravdu)
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Ja teda vážně nevím o čem tady vlastně mluvíš, ale v té druhé citaci z webu PC GamesN se píše, že "full top-to-bottom lineup of graphics cards on the RDNA 2 including mid range and entry level "
tak kde vlastně vidíš ten refresh, kterým se tu s Trollfanem ( jak trefné jméno) pořád ohanite ??
Ta prvni citace ktera pochazi z 28.1.2020 byla následně 29.1.2020 AMD dovysvětlena že vlastně nejde o refresh a nový článek PC GamesN čtyři dny starý říká, že kompletní nabidka bude postavena na RDNA2
tak kde vlastně vidíš ten refresh, kterým se tu s Trollfanem ( jak trefné jméno) pořád ohanite ??
Ta prvni citace ktera pochazi z 28.1.2020 byla následně 29.1.2020 AMD dovysvětlena že vlastně nejde o refresh a nový článek PC GamesN čtyři dny starý říká, že kompletní nabidka bude postavena na RDNA2
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Lisa mluvila jen o tom že bude refresh. Rick Bergman posléze prohlásil že na RDNA 2 vydají celý lineup - mid a low později.
Ty dvě informace si navzájem neodporují, nechápu o čem se tu hádáte
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Ano, řekla a vsichni si to bohužel vyložili špatně, proto druhý den tuto informaci upřesnila, že pod slovem refresh myslela kompletni výměnu celé nabídky na RDNA2 a nikoliv refresh ve smyslu polaris 480/580...Krteq píše:Lisa mluvila jen o tom že bude refresh. Rick Bergman posléze prohlásil že na RDNA 2 vydají celý lineup - mid a low později.
"The more you buy, the more you save" AI everywhere - Nvidia CEO at Computex 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhlE3m1trM4
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Troll. Pozri sa co mas napisane hned pod nadpisom na linku ktory si tu hodil.del42sa píše:tak kde vlastně vidíš ten refresh, kterým se tu s Trollfanem ( jak trefné jméno) pořád ohanite ??
Aj keby tym nebol kaslicky refresh a bolo zalozene na RDNA 2 tak refresh to potom asi nebude co aj ked to tak kazdy vola vratane ludi od AMD? Vsetci su mimo len ty si vzducholod.AMD clarified that the Navi "refresh" will consist of new cards based on the next-gen RDNA architecture.
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Ano ja to narozdíl od tebe četl, ale ty se tady oháníš trollama a sám tu jenom trolíš
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Vega Primitive Shader combines the functions of vertex and geometry shader and with the right knowledge you can discard game based primitives at an incredible rate" https://pcper.com/2017/01/amd-vega-gpu- ... tecture/2/
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Tak kde tam vidis ze nebude ziadny refresh ked to minimalne "refresh" volaju, predpokladam ze sami vedia preco?
Toto vyjadrenie ludi z AMD podla mna dost jasne naznacuje ze tym navi refresh nemyslela grafiky RDNA2 lineup.we're told she was speaking in terms of new additions to the product stack, and not stating that refreshed Navi cards would come with the next-gen RDNA architecture.
Druhy citat odporuje tomu prvemu a navyse ten druhy je len nazor autora clanku ze sa mu to nejavi ako klasicky refresh. Ziadna zarucena info vyvracajuca spominane vyjadrenie o RDNA1 refresh od AMD tam uvedena nieje.it doesn't appear that she was referencing a "refreshed" lineup of Navi cards analogous to the tech community's typical understanding of the term. Instead, we will see new products based on the next-gen RDNA architecture come to market, ostensibly to address the high end of the GPU market (Big Navi).
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Kompletní specifikace Xbox Series X GPU
RDNA 2 začíná v tomhle kontextu vypadat celkem obstojněCPU: 8x Zen 2 Cores at 3.8GHz (3.6GHz with SMT)
GPU: 12 TFLOPs, 52 CUs at 1.825GHz, Custom RDNA 2
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Process: TSMC 7nm Enhanced
Memory: 16GB GDDR6
Memory Bandwidth: 10GB at 560GB/s, 6GB at 336GB/s
Internal Storage: 1TB Custom NVMe SSD
IO Throughout: 2.4GB/s (Raw), 4.8GB/s (Compressed)
Expandable Storage: 1TB Expansion Card
External Storage: USB 3.2 HDD Support
Optical Drive: 4K UHD Blu-ray Drive
Performance Target: 4K at 60fps - up to 120fps
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To by me zajimalo jak dostali zen2cpu+3328SP rdna2 gpu do 360mm2.
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To custom RDNA2 nikde nerozebirali? Jakoze zda custom je jen to, ze je to pro XBOX nebo zda se to nejak vic treba lidi oproti tomu, ceho se snad jednou dockame v PC...
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Počítej ještě s CUs pro redundanci, je jich tam víc jak 52HEAD píše:To by me zajimalo jak dostali zen2cpu+3328SP rdna2 gpu do 360mm2.
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Navi 10 ma 251mm2 se 40CUs. 16CUs prida jen par mm, ktere v pohode ziskaji oriznutim L3 CPU.
Vega 20 ma 331mm2 s 64CUs, 4xHBM2, xGMI, atd.
Btw *ten chladic* https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/03/16/ ... es-x-tech/
Vega 20 ma 331mm2 s 64CUs, 4xHBM2, xGMI, atd.
Btw *ten chladic* https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/03/16/ ... es-x-tech/
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